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  Covert art and printing
Posted by: Bigrob - Yesterday, 01:47 PM - Forum: Bug reports and suggestions - Replies (8)

just an idea

I presume that a lot of the community here keep these amazing restorations on hard drives which is easier to stream.

I'm in the process of building of a media server (slow process due to funds sadly) but thanks to a friend or two, I do manage to get some of these projects burnt on disc. 

but to be honest, some of these efforts are so good that I feel that they deserve a place in my movie collection. having it in a case with some custom artwork makes it a bit more special. 

So I was thinking it would perhaps be a good idea to have a section dedicated to artwork for such releases or custom artwork in general and some tips on printing. It might even bring some photoshop talent to the boards as well with the same interests in preserving film in the form of original posters etc

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  How would you correct this? ('strobing'?)
Posted by: Serums - Yesterday, 08:20 AM - Forum: Audio and video editing - Replies (7)

Independent to my Police Story 3 correction, I've been asked by offer some input on my friend's reconstruction of 'First Strike'. It's going well, except the video has this kind of 'strobing' (is there a technical term for this?) on and off throughout.

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Is there a program/filter we could use that'll correct this (or at least reduce the effect)? PC or Mac, both are fine.

Any information/help is greatly appreciated  Smile

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Posted by: krenko - Yesterday, 02:07 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (4)

Hi everyone! I found you because I unwittingly bought a Teamblu bootleg from eBay (Jason Goes To Hell Unrated) which was literally unavailable anywhere else on blu ray - of course, I now know that it was a fan creation. After the dodgy disc arrived it was clear from the packaging and print job (and tobacco smell) that it had been cheaply run off in some dude's house.

The quality of the actual content was amazing though so I did some research and discovered this whole new world of fan creations. I had vaguely heard of people making their own Star Trek fan films but I had no idea that so much work on such relatively obscure movies such as Friday the 13th part 9 had happened.

I've found a lot these past months - from restorations to full new edits of movies, and there's a lot more I have yet to watch but I just wanted to say that after finding this site I've thoroughly enjoyed reading about all your work. It's also a really nice atmosphere here, and there's a lot of passionate and talented people posting here. I always look forward to checking back.

I might not have much to contribute but I just wanted to let you know how happy I am to have found you!

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  The Thing (1982)
Posted by: TomArrow - 2019-01-16, 04:46 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (12)

(referring to Arrow and Shout! BD releases)
Do you guys know if any of the two scans was made from the IP?

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  Searching for a tool
Posted by: CaveDoctor - 2019-01-15, 04:22 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (3)

Is there anyway to separate chrominance from luminance channels?
I want to use super resolution software to reconstruct lost chrominance.

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Posted by: CaveDoctor - 2019-01-15, 08:49 AM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (4)

I discovered this place on accident, but I'm looking forward to being a member here.

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  Hello, my fellow film fans!
Posted by: JayArgonaut - 2019-01-14, 12:28 PM - Forum: Presentation - Replies (7)

Hi there!

My first post, of many more to come, I hope. Following an invite from spoRv, I'm very much delighted and honoured to be here. I've spotted many a familiar face from OT.com, so already I feel right at home.  Smile

I'm looking forward to being a part of this community and contributing in any way I can to help with restorations.


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  Negative Scanning & Digital Grading / Interpositive Scanning / Release-Print Scanning
Posted by: LucasGodzilla - 2019-01-14, 05:57 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (3)

(2019-01-14, 12:15 AM)spoRv Wrote: I think we need a new thread, sharing opinions and facts about "negative scanning and subsequent digital color grading Vs interpositive scanning Vs release print scanning"... that thread will surely be long and stuffed with great info... but I'm too lazy to start it! Happy

Well then I'll do it for you lazy bum lol

Anyways, I suppose the best way to start a thread like would be to show a drastic comparison or something like that. A while back on the Blu-Ray forums in a thread for Blue Underground's 4K transfer of Lucio Fulci's Zombie, there were a few posts that took a brief tangent away from Zombie and went to talk about Clive Barker's Hellraiser. There was a post by a user under the name of JohnCarpenterFan that was kind of an eye-opener for many: It basically compared high-quality stills from a preserved archival print of the movie with the Arrow transfer, ranting about their differences.

JohnCarpenterFan;15869547 Wrote:It is very interesting that you brought up Hellraiser. 

I recently managed to get my hands on a well-preserved archival print, watched it, took some scans, made sure they were representative of how it looked correctly projected and compared it with the Arrow Blu-ray.

Be aware that I really liked the Arrow Blu-ray despite the peculiar grain, and didn't have any problems with the color timing... When I watched this print, I couldn't believe my eyes. This film when viewed on film looks absolutely incredible, very stylish, quite a lot of blue lighting. I had no idea this film looked that good, home video has just done it a complete disservice.

One thing I will say is that this print was not grainy at all, even in low-light conditions there was nothing out of the ordinary, I wasn't even aware of it most of the time. 

When I flicked through the Arrow disc not long after, it looked flat and orange compared to what I had seen, it looked ugly and noisy. In the scene where the cenobites appear at the hospital, the room in the print appeared more blue with Pinhead's skin also being bathed in blue which helped draw attention away from the make-up, on the Arrow the room is more neutral and the make-up job on Pinhead really stands out. Also in a scene near the end (see last picture below), in the print, there's clearly blue lighting in the background and the characters directly in front of the camera are covered in a warm glow from a fireplace (IIRC), yet on the Arrow, everything is again flat and orange.

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It was like watching the film for the first time. I'd love it if every studio/label took the Warner approach and used answer prints (or at the very least view multiple theatrical prints) to assist with color timing. This "Hold back on the colors/contrast, keep the shadows intact, make everything look natural" way of thinking has got to go. It's not purist in the slightest, in fact it goes directly against what film naturally looks like.

Reading this, I decided to do a bit of a comparison and ripped my Arrow copy of Hellraiser for comparison and well, the differences are pretty big. I weren't able to find the exact frames for all of them but I was able to at least pinpoint frames that were nearly the same.

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I highly suspect that what we have in the Arrow transfer is a 2K scan of the negatives with a brand new color grade subsequent since the colors are quite different. I can't prove whether or not that's true since it's just officially detailed merely as a "Brand new 2K restoration approved by director of photography Robin Vidgeon", however it's quite obvious that there's some sort of going inconsistency here.

Certainly makes me wish there's some release of this movie now that addresses this issue. Maybe some of y'all could give a crack at making a restoration of this color grade if you want a challenge or something.

On that note, I'd just like to say my opinion on the topic of "What to scan?": I wish companies tried to use scanned camera negatives as an HD base and a telecine or scan of a theatrical print (the less faded, the better) to base the digital color grading off of.

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  display colors are "wrong"
Posted by: spoRv - 2019-01-13, 01:16 PM - Forum: General technical discussions - Replies (12)

Few days ago Colson did this comparison:
and I thought: "well, yes, it's from DCP, so details should be better... yet, snow is not blue, but green..."
Then, today, watching the same comparison on my phone, snow is not green anymore, but white!

AFAIK my display (UHD FALD) was well calibrated... so, now, I am asking myself: is it NOT well calibrated - and colors are wrong? Or the phone display the colors wrongly, and the DCP snow is indeed green?

This is a VERY important question... because, if the former is true, all my projects are at risk of being wrong, color wise! Eek

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  Workprint VCDS
Posted by: roman1990 - 2019-01-13, 06:08 AM - Forum: Official and unofficial releases - Replies (1)

Hello everyone,

I'm currently looking for old VCD workprints that were released way back in the 2000's wondering if anyone still has these:

The.Banger.Sisters.WORKPRINT-TEG-VCD (I only have the first 50 minutes of this)
Minority Report WORKPRINT - TCF
Ride Or Die *SVCD* - WORKPRINT - loGisTic
The Rookie - WP - TWCiSO
Sweet Home Alabama - WORKPRINT - TCF

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