Looking for "The Terminator" (1984) theatrical color grading [FOUND]

[Stamper]

So there this guy on YT who does a channel that is all T2, T2forShow.

He posted an interesting video where he reviews the french dub from a VHS.

https://youtu.be/ZyhbBkrhFAY

Of most interest is that the french VHS is from a french print, complete with french localised credits so not the masters used in the UK or US at the time.

As I mentioned previously, the cigar biker bar scene at the Corral Lounge, is thus preserved as it was initially, timed in blue instead of brown as it become when T2 landed on video. That was the biggest change Cameron made after the film release back then.

[zoidberg]

Does anyone have the French VHS that can confirm this? From what I've watched of the YT video linked the picture isn't very stable, whether that was done deliberately to make it more 'analogue' I don't know. Also the AR changes from shot to shot.
Wouldn't the LD be the same master as well?

[MrBrown]

I do not know if the french LD has the same master, as the VHS, but I'll might find out if the french LD has french Opening Credits someday next month... I snateched it at eBay, and it should be delivered in some weeks. (But I am not with my LD Player, so it might take some days after I receive the disc.)

[zoidberg]

From what little I can glean online the French VHS was distributed by Gaumont/Columbia, as was the LD.

[MrBrown]

Sadly, german LD vom VLC seem to have same master as VCL DVD, without a german Text Localization. I dont think that German ever got the Opening Credits localized.

[pipefan413]

So there this guy on YT who does a channel that is all T2, T2forShow.

He posted an interesting video where he reviews the french dub from a VHS.

https://youtu.be/ZyhbBkrhFAY

Of most interest is that the french VHS is from a french print, complete with french localised credits so not the masters used in the UK or US at the time.

As I mentioned previously, the cigar biker bar scene at the Corral Lounge, is thus preserved as it was initially, timed in blue instead of brown as it become when T2 landed on video. That was the biggest change Cameron made after the film release back then.

Thanks for sharing this!

Mostly unrelated, but he comments on it in the video: I have a very small sample size of one showing but my experience of French cinema audiences is excellent compared to how people behave in the UK. I felt like every single person in that room would have phoned the police if anybody so much as rustled a bag of sweets.

[MrBrown]

The French LaserDisc has english Credits, so they did not use the French VHS Master for the LD.

[Stamper]

Would make sense as French VHS were SECAM, Pal system wasn't widespread then, so they had to reuse a Pal master for the LD I guess.

[MrBrown]

Would make sense as French VHS were SECAM, Pal system wasn't widespread then, so they had to reuse a Pal master for the LD I guess.

That explains why my French VHS of "Roar" (with Tippi Hedren) has color issues, when playing...