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Beauty And The Beast - Swedish VHS audio
#1
Hello!

So, about a year ago, I sought out help to restore the original Swedish narration to Disney's "Beauty And The Beast", to no avail. But recently, I decided to capture the Hi-Fi audio track from the official Swedish VHS release and now, I'm making my capture available to everybody. Behold! Here's the linage:
VHS->Scantic VC 300 Long Play 6 Head NICAM Hi-Fi VCR->TV->3,5 mm audio output->König USB 3D Sound Controller 5.1->Audacity recorded at 16 bit, 48 kHz.
Please be aware that NO noise reduction has made to the audio track, nor has it been speed up to NTSC speed. This is audio straight from the VHS. For what it's worth, enjoy!

Edit: in honor of this discussion reaching 300 views, I've decided to list the major changes between the VHS audio and DVD/Blu-ray audio.

Aside from the narration, there are actually two major differences I've managed to find. The first difference can be heard during the performance of the title track. On the VHS, Ms. Pots' voice echoes, but on the Blu-ray, the echo effect is gone. The second difference is found in the ending. The VHS has a completely different choir compared to the Blu-ray because they used the soundtrack version on the DVD/Blu-ray.

Edit 2: Better late than never, here's the true stereo capture.
Lineage: 2nd VHS tape->Scantic VC 300 Long Play 6 Head NICAM Hi-Fi VCR->Plexgear Moviesaver 600->Virtualdub->Audio declipped in Audacity.
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That's sweet, Emil. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure it could be featured in future works on this title Big Grin
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I just discovered that König USB 3D Sound Controller 5.1 may have recorded the Hi-Fi audio... in MONO. So, I have no choice now but to make TWO captures, one for the left channel and one for the right, just to ensure the track is archived in stereo. I'll get back with a (possibly) corrected track tomorrow.
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That's very odd, are you sure that you are using a stereo jack?
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(2017-05-07, 07:26 PM)Evit Wrote: That's very odd, are you sure that you are using a stereo jack?

Im certain that the 3,5 mm jack was stereo. Are there USB sound cards that has stereo input? I'm asking because my current laptop doesn't have a mic in port.
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The mystery deepens...
So, like I promised yesterday, I went ahead and did two audio captures of the VHS, only to reach one conclusion: the mix on VHS is pretty much mono anyway with no clear difference between the left and the right channels. So my first capture was correct by complete accident. But that begs the question on how exactly Beauty And The Beast was mixed during the original theatrical run.
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You mean how was it mixed for Sweden? At the worst it was surround stereo. It doesn't appear to have had any mono mix in the US ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101414/tech...tt_ql_dt_7 ) and by 1991 I doubt there was any cinema equipped only with mono anymore.
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(2017-05-08, 05:12 PM)Evit Wrote: You mean how was it mixed for Sweden? At the worst it was surround stereo. It doesn't appear to have had any mono mix in the US ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101414/tech...tt_ql_dt_7 ) and by 1991 I doubt there was any cinema equipped only with mono anymore.

Maybe, but then again, IMDB isn't a 100% reliable source.
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I can say with 100% certainty that the Hebrew dub was mixed in mono for financial reasons (Which, given that it was given a practically perfect cast, seems absurd, but it's mono origins are evident on the 5.1 mix).

So, since I believe Sweden wasn't known for using Dolby Stereo in it's native films in that era (Not unlike Israel), I can say that the Swedish dub being mixed in mono is a perfectly reasonable scenario.
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So the VHS tape is only "stereo compatible" then? It wasn't a problem with your capture device
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