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Released The Keep (1983) [Fundamental Collection™ #022]
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The Keep [Fundamental Collection]

[Image: The_Keep_cover_small.png]

Original title: The Keep
Original runtime: 1h35m46s
Source: HDTV as source, DVD as color reference; various PAL TV for audio tracks
Video processing: HDTV regraded using the DVD as color reference; 35mm grain plate
Audio processing: sync, slowdown from PAL, missing part added in the French track
Video format: x264 1920x1080 23.976fps 2.18:1 aspect ratio
Audio format: DTS 5.1 English, French, German, Italian, Spanish, soundtrack
Subtitles: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish
Chapters: 11
Release notes: Italian subtitles are made from scratch, literal transcripted from audio track; Spanish dub is out of sync in the last few minutes, as found in the original source; chapters found on ChaptersDB
Release format: BD-25 folder

Screenshots:

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Comparison:

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Mediainfo:
Complete name : 00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 12.3 GiB
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.1 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 16.2 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.326
Stream size : 10.8 GiB (88%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 133 MiB (1%)

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 133 MiB (1%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 35 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 131 MiB (1%)

Audio #4
ID : 4355 (0x1103)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 133 MiB (1%)

Audio #5
ID : 4356 (0x1104)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 133 MiB (1%)

Audio #6
ID : 4357 (0x1105)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 133 MiB (1%)

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #2
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Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #3
ID : 4610 (0x1202)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #4
ID : 4611 (0x1203)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #5
ID : 4612 (0x1204)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
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That sexy screenshot looks hot!

Is it just me or does this look like an upscale? None of the screenshot look really sharp, aside from the grain you added. I'm guessing they just had an SD master that they upscaled for the HDTV airing. Feel free to correct me tho.
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(2017-10-19, 04:28 AM)TomArrow Wrote: Is it just me or does this look like an upscale? None of the screenshot look really sharp, aside from the grain you added. I'm guessing they just had an SD master that they upscaled for the HDTV airing. Feel free to correct me tho.

AFAIK the only source is the LD master, so as with the various versions of it out there, it's a case of making the best of it. I don't think I've seen the film since I gave my laserdisc a spin what's now a long time ago, so much appreciated. Will we ever see an official release?
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The source is quite soft, and most probably an upscale; even grain plate can't help too much, sadly. Still, the source seems the best available, and in this version colors are now better than the overly magenta ridden found in the original. Probably it will never be released in HD/UHD, so, unless a film print will be found, this would be the best version, I guess.
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This movie, this movie....I can never decide if I love it or hate it. I guess love the first half but hate, I mean hate the second half. Especially after a particularly bad SFX shows up. Regardless, I need to visit it again so count me in for a download spoRv. Thanks for putting it together.

Where you able to get the LD soundtrack for the DS mix?
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You know, PDB, I got mixed feelings, too... can't say I hate it, still I don't love it... I like a lot much of the music cues, actors are quite good indeed, SFX are poor but in line with other films of the time, so I can forgive them (sorta). Still, I don't know what I don't like in particular... probably if we would be able to see the whole 210m cut, we'll like it more. But I'm pretty sure it will never happen, sadly...

Not able to get the LD audio track; there is a lot of space to mux it in, though, so if someone would kindly provide it, it would be nice.
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(2017-10-19, 07:37 PM)spoRv Wrote: You know, PDB, I got mixed feelings, too... can't say I hate it, still I don't love it... I like a lot much of the music cues, actors are quite good indeed, SFX are poor but in line with other films of the time, so I can forgive them (sorta). Still, I don't know what I don't like in particular... probably if we would be able to see the whole 210m cut, we'll like it more. But I'm pretty sure it will never happen, sadly...

Not able to get the LD audio track; there is a lot of space to mux it in, though, so if someone would kindly provide it, it would be nice.

You know, you are right about the soundtrack. Love Tangerine Dream's soundtracks.

Concerning the iffy SFX, Wally Veevers, the effect head, died during the production and the effect team never recovered. That and the budget got slashed.
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Still, som SFX reminds me a bit ROTLA...
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(2017-10-19, 07:50 PM)spoRv Wrote: Still, som SFX reminds me a bit ROTLA...

Blasphemy!


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...nazis, supernatural, '80s SFX... not directly comparable, of course, but ...reminds...me...a bit...
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