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[Proposal] 

35mm "Delicatessen" $100 35mm print buying and scanning?

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This one has been on eBay for a while: https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Feature-DE...2499999289

Quite a cool and iconic movie.

Costs $100, which is about 85 EUR. Double it for the shipping.

It's faded and probably won't be a good reference for the actual theatrical colors, but I think it can be fixed through grading a 16bit scan, to at least have a decent image. 

I could add 50 EUR to the pot for buying the print (can do bank transfer to most European bank accounts). Seller says it's only available till the end of 2017, but apparently he's gone and the offer runs for 4 more days, so I'm guessing that means we still have a chance.

Anyone interested in seeing this happen? 

Will post on OT.com as well.
(This post was last modified: 2017-12-31, 08:13 PM by TomArrow.)
Depending on the country it's from, it might not be the real deal in printing process. It's a Darius Khondji cinematography, and the US prints, for instance, were crap, according to Jeunet. The US distributor didn't want to put money in Khondji's process to print the film, so...
This seller usually has Russian prints, but the description here doesn't mention it. Ships from Russia, anyway.

When you say crap, what specifically do you mean? Bad colors? Bad exposure? Bad sharpness?

Either way, it's rather cheap and unless it's somehow really atrociously bad, it might still be worth doing, no?
(This post was last modified: 2017-12-31, 08:41 PM by TomArrow.)
Delicatessen was bleach bypass printed in France. Couldn't say which specific process though.
(2017-12-31, 08:37 PM)Beber Wrote: Depending on the country it's from, it might not be the real deal in printing process. It's a Darius Khondji cinematography, and the US prints, for instance, were crap, according to Jeunet. The US distributor didn't want to put money in Khondji's process to print the film, so...

Yep the bypass is the issue
(2018-01-04, 01:11 AM)dvdmike Wrote:
(2017-12-31, 08:37 PM)Beber Wrote: Depending on the country it's from, it might not be the real deal in printing process. It's a Darius Khondji cinematography, and the US prints, for instance, were crap, according to Jeunet. The US distributor didn't want to put money in Khondji's process to print the film, so...

Yep the bypass is the issue

That means the bad copies lack the bleach bypass?
It's best to avoid faded prints, in order to get the colour back you need to use a scanner that can really dig into the dynamic range, and doing it that way costs quite a bit more. It's a 1991 print so a Kodak or Fuji print would be low fade, for some reason Tasma prints are not (assuming that is Tasma of course, I can't identify it for sure just from the two photos maybe someone else can).
Are the bleach bypass (and/or silver retention) prints usually (always?) low fade?
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I don't think it makes any difference to how much the developed dyes will fade, also "Low Fade" stock has only been around since 1982 after Kodak spent several years working on a solution when they "discovered" in the 70's that classic films were fading. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in the future.
Is there something wrong with the Blu-ray to consider a 35mm print?

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