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Lossless vs lossy audio - this tool says I can tell a difference

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Just got into an argument over FLAC vs. lossy compression.

Was challenged to do a ABX test. 

Done:
   

I admit I don't know how the math behind this works, but this tool says I can tell a difference with 100% confidence between FLAC and 320kbps MP3. 

So maybe most people just have shitty sound hardware? I used a Fireface 800 with AKG K701 headphones.

Either way, eat this, haters! Big Grin
Big Grin

Of course a lot depends on you (hats off!) and your listening chain, but also by the encoder used!
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Is this aimed at anyone in particular Tom?
(2018-01-26, 03:17 PM)zoidberg Wrote: Is this aimed at anyone in particular Tom?

Hahaha! I would be lying if I said I didn't recall our disagreement about DTS vs FLAC. Smile

But this happened independently over on Blutopia and I while my main argument basically always was that I'm a data hoarder and like the originals, I found the result of this test actually surprising (because I've read millions of articles about how 320kbps MP3 is transparent), so I found it would be interesting to share and discuss. Smile

The edgy words I used were for the giggles, not a malicious attack on you or anybody here.
(This post was last modified: 2018-01-26, 03:21 PM by TomArrow.)
(2018-01-26, 03:01 PM)spoRv Wrote: Big Grin

Of course a lot depends on you (hats off!) and your listening chain, but also by the encoder used!

That's probably definitely true. I only used the standard Adobe Audition encoder, maybe LAME would have done better I dunno.
(2018-01-26, 03:20 PM)TomArrow Wrote:
(2018-01-26, 03:17 PM)zoidberg Wrote: Is this aimed at anyone in particular Tom?

Hahaha! I would be lying if I said I didn't recall our disagreement about DTS vs FLAC. Smile
 That wasn't me
But I bet you will not be able to distinguish between WAV (FLAC) and DTS 1.5mbps...
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(2018-01-26, 03:50 PM)zoidberg Wrote:
(2018-01-26, 03:20 PM)TomArrow Wrote:
(2018-01-26, 03:17 PM)zoidberg Wrote: Is this aimed at anyone in particular Tom?

Hahaha! I would be lying if I said I didn't recall our disagreement about DTS vs FLAC. Smile
 That wasn't me

It was: https://forum.fanres.com/thread-1857-pos...l#pid38475

No biggie though. I thought you were making a wink at me regarding that exchange, apparently not. Big Grin
(2018-01-26, 03:51 PM)spoRv Wrote: But I bet you will not be able to distinguish between WAV (FLAC) and DTS 1.5mbps...

I am too cowardly to try Big Grin
That was hardly a disagreement Tom. Like I said at the time you won't be disappointed by full bit rate DTS. I thought you were referencing the conversation on the Armageddon thread.

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