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PHASE IV (1974) w/ original ending
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Hey hey.

Some of you might know that 101 put out a Region B blu ray of PHASE IV in the UK recently that included director Saul Bass' original extending ending (that was finally rediscovered about 10 years ago) as an extra. Unfortunately there is no option to watch it as part of the main feature so... I did what had to be done.

I essentially ditched the last reel of the movie and cut in exactly where the extended clip starts. While the majority of the extra stuff takes place in the final montage, there were enough extra little bits and pieces to make it worth swapping out the entire reel.

Videos were trimmed and merged with TMPGEnc smart encoder (so no re-encoding), the English SDH subs were converted to SRT and similarly merged, the original chapter points preserved (because there were only like 5 or 6 anyway), the audio commentary was jettisoned (for obvious reasons) and the whole lot was spat out as a BDMV folder using TSMuxer.

Oh yeah, and I kept the vintage closing Paramount logo from the theatrical ending.

Sorry folks, no fancy menus.

Even though the movie now runs longer, the file size is slightly smaller due to the extra compression they laid on the extended ending. The only way around that would be to get the French disc with the more generous bitrate on the original ending but that has Dolby Digital audio instead of LPCM and, well... life's too short.

Anyway, if anyone is keen to field test it for me, hit me up with a PM. I've got an MKV in the making but I thought I'd get this uploading before I turned in for the night. I'm on CDT (Cool Dude Time) so hopefully I'll get back to anyone who might be interested in about 8 hours. EDIT: The BDMV is now available.

Cheers!
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(2020-09-14, 04:46 PM)The Griff Wrote: Even though the movie now runs longer, the file size is slightly smaller due to the extra compression they laid on the extended ending. The only way around that would be to get the French disc with the more generous bitrate on the original ending but that has Dolby Digital audio instead of LPCM...

Well, you could always use the French disc to get better video, and mux the PCM audio!
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(2020-09-16, 02:28 PM)spoRv Wrote: Well, you could always use the French disc to get better video, and mux the PCM audio!

Ha. Yes. I did consider that. But besides the higher stats, there's been no confirmation that the French disc actually has a noticeably better encode. Also, apparently the theatrical version of P4 is available on iTunes in 4K, presenting another possibility for overall improvement. But, like I said, sometimes life is too short!

While I'm here, I may as well share a link to a short article from 2012 talking about the discovery and screening of the original ending. It was a very big deal to fans of the film at the time and we've waited years for it to finally be made available, only to have to make the compromise of watching it out of context with the film.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v...unt-341449
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from what i recall, 101 films were intending to branch the original ending into the main feature but was told by Paramount that they wasn't allowed.
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(2020-09-16, 03:52 PM)Bigrob Wrote: from what i recall, 101 films were intending to branch the original ending into the main feature but was told by Paramount that they wasn't allowed.

Yeah, I heard similar rumours. Don't know what the source was or whether it was 101 Films, themselves.

Dunno why Paramount would block it since they don't have much interest in the movie. Perhaps it's sheer laziness and a lack of desire to iron out any legal issues that may arise from certifying an alternate version of the movie with any other associated rights holders?
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I've been wanting the original version for years!
Can I have the link please?
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(2020-09-18, 07:07 AM)The Griff Wrote:
(2020-09-16, 03:52 PM)Bigrob Wrote: from what i recall, 101 films were intending to branch the original ending into the main feature but was told by Paramount that they wasn't allowed.

Yeah, I heard similar rumours. Don't know what the source was or whether it was 101 Films, themselves.

Dunno why Paramount would block it since they don't have much interest in the movie. Perhaps it's sheer laziness and a lack of desire to iron out any legal issues that may arise from certifying an alternate version of the movie with any other associated rights holders?

There was a poster on the movies section of blu-ray.com who was involved in the festival screening of Phase IV where the rediscovered original ending was premiered. He contacted Paramount who supplied the film and the original reel for the festival and was told in no uncertain terms that that was the best he was going to get - they simply wouldn't allow a new master to be struck including the original ending, which is why all the releases that include it only have it as an extra. Why? He didn't say...
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