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Is the LotR 4K remaster a failure?
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@TomArrow - Well, same here, that's not necessarily an issue. but I was wondering about the subwoofer itself.
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(2021-02-21, 11:52 AM)webbos Wrote: In regards to the OP post : I would say the BluRay version can't really hold up a candle in terms of color accuracy and that's what matters most from a calibration perspective (aka how the director intended for the viewer to see). The HDR part is bonus & welcome, of course.

What i'm curious is - the LFE level didn't seem loud when I've watched it, actually quite spot-on.
What audio setup are you using @TomArrow ?


With regards to the LFE some have posted on other forums that the LFE has been filtered to remove the really low stuff which was present in earlier releases. FWIW there's always been a debate on the LFE levels of the home releases, starting with the FotR DVD which many said was 'cooked'.

I'm interested in your comment about calibration. From what I can gather there is no set standard for HDR in terms of its implementation, most displays can't even reproduce the full gamut of Rec2020 and will handle tone mapping differently from one another. So unless there's been some breakthrough I'm not aware of calibrating UHD HDR is impossible, the only way you're going to see what the director sees is if you borrow his display
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(2021-02-22, 04:26 PM)zoidberg Wrote:
(2021-02-21, 11:52 AM)webbos Wrote: In regards to the OP post : I would say the BluRay version can't really hold up a candle in terms of color accuracy and that's what matters most from a calibration perspective (aka how the director intended for the viewer to see). The HDR part is bonus & welcome, of course.

What i'm curious is - the LFE level didn't seem loud when I've watched it, actually quite spot-on.
What audio setup are you using @TomArrow ?


With regards to the LFE some have posted on other forums that the LFE has been filtered to remove the really low stuff which was present in earlier releases. FWIW there's always been a debate on the LFE levels of the home releases, starting with the FotR DVD which many said was 'cooked'.

I'm interested in your comment about calibration. From what I can gather there is no set standard for HDR in terms of its implementation, most displays can't even reproduce the full gamut of Rec2020 and will handle tone mapping differently from one another. So unless there's been some breakthrough I'm not aware of calibrating UHD HDR is impossible, the only way you're going to see what the director sees is if you borrow his display

I think HDR displays just come factory calibrated. Maybe I'm way out of my depth here, but the process of converting from one colorspace to another etc. has very well established math. Basically you unfold the transfer function to linear, then you convert to XYZ and from XYZ into the target color space (that of the display). Only issue being the treatment of out of gamut colors and stuff that is too bright or too dark. But ultimately that has always been an issue with calibration - it cannot make your display show colors that it is incapable of displaying. If your display has a black level of 1 nit, calibration won't be able to change that. It can only make sure to correctly map the colors it *can* display to those in the video.
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No matter what TV set someone is having, any set can benefit from professional calibration.
Based on a Gamma - the White Balance / Color Display & Accuracy (multi point calibration) is calibrated and that's what matters. What the TV does by tonemapping, that's something else and not subject to "changes".

The better the TV, the better the output / end-result.
I think the HZ Panasonic series is currently the best possible TV out there, for a cinephil person. I've witnessed it and it's amazing. Too bad it's not being sold in USA, super-odd.
Even this TV-set which comes with certain "pre-calibrated" presets, gets to perfection when calibrated properly.

I remember my old Panasonic Plasma which had a THX mode (from factory) and it was absolute crap / junk (too green-ish)
So, no, unfortunately, there are no-factory-calibrated-models.
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