Hi guys,
So I was browsing through my Fury Road different editions collection, and I'm kinda confused now about the variation of mixes that can be found on these.
It looks like there are different encoding of the mixes depending on the releases, not all of them sounding the same.
From what I can make up those are the main ones:
- English Dolby TrueHD Audio 5692 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5692 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -4dB)
- English Dolby Atmos/TrueHD Audio 6077 kbps 7.1-Atmos / 48 kHz / 6077 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 384 kbps)
- English Dolby Digital Audio 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
- English iTunes stereo mix 192kbps AAC
However browsing the web, I find instances of those listed there and there:
- English Dolby Digital + 7.1 E-AC3 1536kbps
- English DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4687 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) labeled as "original" so no re-encode
- English Dolby Digital + 5.1 640 kbps
- English Dolby Digital 384 kbps
What are they? I assume the last one is an extraction from either the Atmos or the True-HD tracks, but are the others encodes (or embeds) that appears in foreign territories? I muxed both the DD 448 and 384 in one file, and they sound completely different, the 448 one being superior sounding.
(This post was last modified: 2021-02-07, 03:56 PM by Stamper.)
As there is an iTunes Atmos version, I *guess* the DD+ 7.1 in your list may be that (so it *should* still be encoded in Atmos)
There is also a Kaleidescape Atmos version, but don't know if it's possible to extract it somehow.
I didn't realise the specs of DD+ allowed to go beyond 640kbps!
Your right some of those might be platform originals.
It looks like the regular BD and the Black & Chrome share the same sync.
However the UHD is a different sync with a slight delay. I need to calculate this as I wanted to gather all the soundtracks on my own custom version just to wade through all of them and see the differences.
(2021-02-07, 04:14 PM)Stamper Wrote: I didn't realise the specs of DD+ allowed to go beyond 640kbps!
That is the max bitrate of "vanilla" DD! 
So I did some digging and it seems the last two listed:
- English Dolby Digital + 5.1 640 kbps
- English Dolby Digital 384 kbps
Are actually some custom re-encodes. The first is just the Dolby True HD recompressed, and the second the extraction core audio from it.
That leave these two, where I'm trying to find out where they originate from:
- English Dolby Digital + 7.1 E-AC3 1536kbps
- English DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4687 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
The first is probably on a streaming offer somewhere, the second probably come from a foreign Blu-ray release, which I was not able to localise yet.
There seem to exist two english Dolby Atmos encodes.
One based upon a DD+ 7.1 core, and the second one bases upon a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 core.
So maybe the DD+ 7.1 floating is core inside the second Dolby Atmos. The Dolby Atmos DD+ 7.1 was on the 3D BD.
Found a BD Info scan:
Code: Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00098.MPLS AVC 2:00:21 40,708,128,768 41,497,780,287 45.10 24.59 DD AC3+ 7.1 1280Kbps
Code: DISC INFO:
Disc Label: MAD_MAX_FURY_ROAD
Disc Size: 41,497,780,287 bytes
Protection: AACS
Extras: Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo: 0.7.5.6
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00098.MPLS
Length: 2:00:21.339 (h:m:s .ms)
Size: 40,708,128,768 bytes
Total Bitrate: 45.10 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 24586 kbps Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 9091 kbps Right Eye
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio English 1280 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 1280 kbps / DN -27dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio German 6232 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5592 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB)
SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 31.128 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 34.168 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.224 kbps
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00098.SSIF 0:00:00.000 2:00:21.339 40,708,128,768 45,098
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:10:42.475 24,963 kbps 49,064 kbps 00:00:47.505 33,144 kbps 00:05:02.468 30,014 kbps 00:03:25.955 130,137 bytes 672,207 bytes 00:00:12.303
2 0:10:42.475 0:08:23.961 24,989 kbps 39,859 kbps 00:17:07.192 31,493 kbps 00:17:07.025 30,553 kbps 00:17:07.026 130,282 bytes 475,780 bytes 00:12:10.730
3 0:19:06.436 0:11:05.873 24,974 kbps 41,533 kbps 00:29:15.712 31,125 kbps 00:19:35.924 29,756 kbps 00:21:52.311 130,201 bytes 376,314 bytes 00:24:23.044
4 0:30:12.310 0:12:43.304 24,998 kbps 41,075 kbps 00:35:46.435 30,761 kbps 00:33:51.946 29,455 kbps 00:36:22.847 130,329 bytes 447,256 bytes 00:30:58.773
5 0:42:55.614 0:06:37.730 24,977 kbps 35,596 kbps 00:45:55.419 31,522 kbps 00:45:55.169 28,781 kbps 00:45:55.043 130,218 bytes 532,160 bytes 00:49:13.659
6 0:49:33.345 0:10:21.829 24,991 kbps 39,199 kbps 00:57:44.085 32,799 kbps 00:57:37.996 29,390 kbps 00:57:36.578 130,291 bytes 539,346 bytes 00:51:15.781
7 0:59:55.174 0:13:07.369 24,994 kbps 39,237 kbps 01:01:15.755 30,300 kbps 01:00:06.311 29,111 kbps 01:00:04.684 130,309 bytes 398,139 bytes 01:08:07.833
8 1:13:02.544 0:09:06.379 24,983 kbps 40,758 kbps 01:15:10.672 29,147 kbps 01:15:22.434 27,875 kbps 01:15:21.642 130,252 bytes 368,939 bytes 01:21:33.513
9 1:22:08.924 0:07:53.806 24,934 kbps 39,233 kbps 01:25:36.089 30,508 kbps 01:29:18.561 29,993 kbps 01:29:18.978 129,994 bytes 402,869 bytes 01:26:34.189
10 1:30:02.730 0:10:37.136 24,981 kbps 40,829 kbps 01:38:30.654 31,822 kbps 01:37:27.633 30,237 kbps 01:37:26.423 130,237 bytes 329,771 bytes 01:30:35.638
11 1:40:39.867 0:08:32.678 24,982 kbps 39,126 kbps 01:43:17.733 30,216 kbps 01:43:11.685 29,405 kbps 01:43:09.057 130,246 bytes 399,746 bytes 01:46:37.099
12 1:49:12.546 0:03:53.733 24,964 kbps 34,229 kbps 01:50:04.723 30,508 kbps 01:52:23.278 28,222 kbps 01:52:18.273 130,149 bytes 482,318 bytes 01:50:04.764
13 1:53:06.279 0:07:15.059 18,442 kbps 38,861 kbps 02:00:16.584 31,085 kbps 01:59:16.149 30,630 kbps 01:58:11.751 96,158 bytes 771,035 bytes 02:00:19.212
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00098.SSIF 4114 (0x1012) 0x20 MVC 7221.256 9,092 8,206,585,619 44,711,343
00098.SSIF 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 7221.256 24,586 22,192,829,894 120,715,135
00098.SSIF 4352 (0x1100) 0x84 AC3+ eng (English) 7221.256 1,280 1,155,415,040 6,770,010
00098.SSIF 4353 (0x1101) 0x83 Atmos deu (German) 7221.256 6,232 5,625,665,342 35,950,601
00098.SSIF 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 7221.256 31 28,097,968 161,259
00098.SSIF 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 7221.256 34 30,841,960 176,203
00098.SSIF 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 7221.256 0 202,243 1,137
Also, on a german Movie database it is said that the US streaming version from moviesanywhere had english DD+ 5.1 Audio.
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So I checked on iTunes, and it looks like the SD 1080p transfer has been updated with a new different master.
It looks like it's a SD version of the 4K UHD stream, whereas all the available Blu-ray discs are the original color timing of the film as seen on the 2K DCP in theaters.
I have Amazon Prime, so I checked there too. It looks like they offer the 4K stream, and that the SD 1080p is also a downconvert of the stream.
That makes another Fury Road variation, this time with the PQ!
- Original Blu-ray, DVD & DCP.
- 3D conversion.
- Black & Chrome
- 4K UHD
- New 1080p version from 4K UHD (streaming only Amazon/AppleTV)
If anyone have access to both of those, thanks if you can compare and confirm, as I can only see this on my computer and not my TV.
Isn't there an Auro 3D mix also
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