Adding another project to the list. The original thread is here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.c...pic/17002/
This is a color regrade the Blu-ray (BD) to look more like the 1995 THX laserdisc (LD) which appears to be the closest home video release of Aliens has come to a 35mm print (similar to my regrade of Alien).
Another point of this project is to recreate the TV cut of Aliens which lack several of the redundant scene of the SE cut but has some of the emotional moments plus the remote sentry gun scenes (see post #37 for a full rundown)
If there is a desire from people after I'm done with this, I will cut this down to the theatrical cut also.
2010 Blu-Ray (SE and TCT) video color regraded to the 1995 THX laserdisc and cut into the TV edit (and possibly TC edit)
1. 2010 Blu-Ray (SE Cut) Dolby Digital 5.1 cropped down to fit the TV Cut.
2. The soundtrack from the original TV broadcast. This is up in the air since I have to see if the track can be savalaged but I would like to preserve it since it appears Bill Paxton re-dubbed his lines.
BD/BD regraded to the 1995 THX LD
jonno: For his knowledge about Aliens and the LDs
Doombot: For testing and advice
spoRv: For advice
Stamper: For his knowledge on the TV Cut
dvdmike: For his insight into a 70mm presentation and the LDs
kaosjm: For his insight into a 35mm presentation
Project Number: 0003.01
1. Blu-ray regraded to the DVD (1999/Quad)
2. Blu-ray regraded to the 1995 THX laserdisc (similar to the Alien Color Regrade project)
3. Blu-ray regraded to the 35mm trailer scan/frames
Each track has its good points and bad points.
The obvious track is to grade against the DVD. The reason is that at this point that is the color grading that people are most familiar with. The problem I am having is that the DVD looks wrong to me in a lot of scenes. The colors are very muted and subdued. In fact there is a low grade fluorescent look to many scenes. Kind of slight pink and purple highlights. Skin tones are very pale. The color temp tends to be very cool compared to the warmer LD and 35mm scans. The DVD is also very bright for a movie with many horror elements.
The second track is using the the 1995 laserdisc. This actually is a good course to take since I'm already matching Alien to its 1995 laserdisc counterpart. The LD has a warm color temperature and darker then the DVD or BD. That is more fitting with the mood of Aliens. Colors are bright and bold. Unfortunately that is part of the problem with the colors tending to be overstaurated in many cases. If there is blue, it is intense blue. The problematic pinks and magenta of the DVD are pushed 100% in this transfer. Some skin tones go from deathly pale to desert sun tan.
The third track is using the many 35mm frames and scans I have found. Ideally, the best choice is to grade off of a 35mm theatrical print. I don't have that, so I look to the trailer. Trailers are problematic to use since they may or may not have final color timing but since this experiment we will just ignore that. As an experiment I took the average color information of the trailer and applied it to the Aliens BD as a whole. The results are pretty interesting. For the most part it matches the LD without the extreme color saturation. The color timing is warm and dark. There is also a red and yellow tint to the scans which I add to this regrade. Sometimes the 35mm tends to almost brown. The problem is you can't quite color grade an entire movie over a few pics. You need more examples. Even without that I think it looks pretty good and I can fill in gaps from the LD.
Here are some pic examples so people can see what I'm talking about
LD/DVD/BD/My 35mm regrade
LD/DVD/BD/My 35mm regrade
So I was thinking maybe doing a "sampler version". Finish a couple of regrades and put them on a BD-R for people to decide which is best before a full version. Maybe a 25GB with the LD and 35mm trailer version or a 50GB with the DVD, LD and 35mm trailer together. Once it has been decided which is the best version, I also wanted to rebuild the ABC TV cut. That and remove the digital fixes (Bishop's hole/scratches on the window).
What does everyone think?