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Halloween (1978) 5.1 Mix Rebuild

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A slightly different project than I usually do, I recently decided that I wanted to attempt to create a 5.1 surround mix for Halloween based on the original mono track as presented on the Criterion Collection laserdisc. I was lucky enough to have SpoRV send me not only the original mono mix, but the music & effects tracks, and the audio commentary.

I've taken both the mono mix and music/effects track, and ran them through SpecWeb to create multichannel versions of each track. I'm in the process of putting this new mix together in a 5.1 multitrack as we speak. Once I have the first iteration complete, I'll looking for a select few to give it a listen. Once it's up to par, I will be releasing it as a standalone track and as part of a larger project I have in mind.

Before I forget, this track will not sync up with the Shout Factory release unless it's manually corrected. I had a bit of trouble trying to do so, so this will match a 23.976 stream instead.
pretty sure all that's needed to sync from the LG UHD to the Shout is a speedup from 23.976 to 24 (0.1% I believe)
(2022-11-24, 03:15 PM)stwd4nder2 Wrote: pretty sure all that's needed to sync from the LG UHD to the Shout is a speedup from 23.976 to 24 (0.1% I believe)

I've been attempting to time stretch the tracks in Audition, and every time I've done so only half of the track is properly synced up. Not sure why, maybe I'll try Audacity and see if I can get better results. If not, I'll be sticking to 23.976.
(2022-11-25, 09:40 AM)kidjupiter92 Wrote: I've been attempting to time stretch the tracks in Audition, and every time I've done so only half of the track is properly synced up. Not sure why, maybe I'll try Audacity and see if I can get better results. If not, I'll be sticking to 23.976.

Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.
(This post was last modified: 2022-11-26, 02:47 PM by wright96d.)
(2022-11-26, 02:44 PM)wright96d Wrote: Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.

Good advice.

Pro: sounds better than timestretching (even if I don't know if anyone could hear the difference)
Cons: will be out of sync of some samples - it should be 48048.048048...
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(2022-11-26, 05:29 PM)spoRv Wrote:
(2022-11-26, 02:44 PM)wright96d Wrote: Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.

Good advice.

Pro: sounds better than timestretching (even if I don't know if anyone could hear the difference)
Cons: will be out of sync of some samples - it should be 48048.048048...
Right you are. Unfortunately I don’t know of any DAW which allows you to have a decimal sample rate. And you’re dealing with fractions of a ms, so it’s indistinguishable.
(This post was last modified: 2022-11-27, 01:17 AM by wright96d.)
(2022-11-26, 02:44 PM)wright96d Wrote:
(2022-11-25, 09:40 AM)kidjupiter92 Wrote: I've been attempting to time stretch the tracks in Audition, and every time I've done so only half of the track is properly synced up. Not sure why, maybe I'll try Audacity and see if I can get better results. If not, I'll be sticking to 23.976.

Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.

(2022-11-26, 05:29 PM)spoRv Wrote:
(2022-11-26, 02:44 PM)wright96d Wrote: Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.

Good advice.

Pro: sounds better than timestretching (even if I don't know if anyone could hear the difference)
Cons: will be out of sync of some samples - it should be 48048.048048...

(2022-11-27, 01:14 AM)wright96d Wrote:
(2022-11-26, 05:29 PM)spoRv Wrote:
(2022-11-26, 02:44 PM)wright96d Wrote: Rather than timestretching, instead try the interpret sample rate function in the edit menu.

If the source is 44.1

44,144

If 48

48,048

You can then resample the audio back to the necessary standard rate.

Good advice.

Pro: sounds better than timestretching (even if I don't know if anyone could hear the difference)
Cons: will be out of sync of some samples - it should be 48048.048048...
Right you are. Unfortunately I don’t know of any DAW which allows you to have a decimal sample rate. And you’re dealing with fractions of a ms, so it’s indistinguishable.

This was absolutely the trick. I was able to sync my rebuild immediately, and I took time to sync the Criterion tracks as well, in case anyone needs them. The rebuild is now SF synced. Whoever is interested in giving the rebuild a listen, hit me up. Need as much feedback as possible so I can make this as good as possible.
(This post was last modified: 2022-11-27, 06:54 AM by kidjupiter92.)



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